The episode answers member questions on using an Agent Operating System that combines a memory system with recent model and tool updates, including a Grok 4.5 CLI, integrations like free Claude code via HY3/OmniRoot, and Hermes components such as Oracle, Astros, and a voice-powered agent. It explains that Rough Flow is now largely unnecessary due to Claude UltraCode and Hermes’ built-in sub-agent teams with Kanban visualization. The host shares practical setup guidance for OpenSEO via GitHub and Claude, compares hosting Hermes via Abacus versus self-hosting or Hermes Cloud, recommends implementing AI within an existing business, advises keeping a single Obsidian vault to reduce complexity and tokens, and outlines a “second brain” workflow using Omi, Obsidian, and Memory Galaxy. It also discusses in-demand automations, token reduction tactics, and when Paperclip may be unnecessary.
00:00 Agent OS Overview
01:04 Rough Flow vs Hermes
02:06 OpenSEO Setup Guide
02:47 Hosting Hermes Options
03:25 AI in Your Business
04:13 Obsidian Vault Strategy
04:52 n8n Carousel Workflows
05:16 Install Agent OS Hermes
06:09 GoHighLevel Contacts Import
06:20 Safe Agent OS Setup
07:39 Second Brain Memory Galaxy
09:15 Selling AI Automations
10:59 New Model Updates
11:22 Cut Hermes Token Costs
12:01 Paperclip with Hermes
13:27 Wrap Up and Community
Full transcript
Today we're going to be answering questions about the agent operating system, how to use it, how to get the most out of it. This is a powerful system where we combine a memory system, we take the latest updates. So for example, like Grok 4.5 just dropped. We've already created a Grok CLI inside the system, where we've tested out loads of different cool builds with this.
And it looks really, really impressive. And bear in mind, this is free if you're already subscribed to Twitter, which is awesome. We've got, for example, like free Claude code plugged into HY3 and OmniRoot that just dropped over the last seven days. And then, for example, with the new Grok 4.5 update, we've got Hermes Oracle plugged into it.
We've got Hermes Astros. We've got a voice-powered AI agent. This is by far the most powerful way to use AI agents. 99% of people don't know about how to use this or that it's even possible.
And we've already created all these amazing systems around it. So we actually give this to AI Profit Board members, and then we get a lot of questions daily about how to use these systems. So what I'm going to do today is just answer those latest questions. Let's get into it.
So we've got a question here from Gene. And Gene was saying, you know, with Rufflow, is it still worth using, or is OpenCore Hermes better? And I would say Rufflow was great growth. If you're not sure what Rufflow is, and you're watching this, by the way, Rufflow is a system where you can have like multiple sub-agents working with whatever agent you're using.
So for example, with Claude Code, you could create like a full team of agents. I would say that Claude Code actually replaced it with Ultra Code. So they created their own version of Rufflow anyway, so you don't need it. And then also, if you go into Hermes, Hermes automatically has teams of sub-agents as one of their latest updates as well.
On top of that, if you actually go inside the Kanban board of Hermes agent, you can visualize the sub-agents you create. So if you want teams of agents, you don't need Rufflow anymore, because you can either do that with Claude and Claude Ultra Code or with Hermes. But either way, you don't need Rufflow. It was just really good a couple of months ago when none of those features were out for either Rufflow or Hermes.
So we've got a question here from Andrew, and Andrew was asking like how to set up OpenSEO. So there's a full set of instructions on the GitHub right here. As you can see, this is a powerful system for rank tracking, for automating SEO, for having different SEO workflows, and then you can plug it into your AgentOS. So for example, we have this full SEO section for SEO inside the AgentOS here, and then we have OpenSEO there.
But if I did, and this is what worked for me personally, because I never set up Docker myself, is just get the details of the GitHub, paste that into Claude, make sure you're using either Fable 5 or Opus 4.8, and then get it set up for you. And then just keep it looping until it finally works. John is asking, has anyone attached Hermes to Abacus? So I think Abacus actually have a cloud-hosted version of Hermes, and you can use that directly with Abacus.
But personally, I would just use it either self-hosted or on a VPS. And actually, Hermes have just released Hermes Cloud today, where you can actually host Hermes in the cloud and use it directly there instead. So I don't see the need for using it with Abacus unless you want all of their tools. But when I tested out myself, it was pretty slow.
And I think there's better ways to use it when you self-host it yourself and customize it as you want. So a question here, Nick was like, you know, with the boom of AI and marketing becoming more saturated and everyone having an AI agency, which I actually don't know many people who have a big AI agency. Like there's a few people who implement it, but there's not that many people who implement it consistently and sell it to clients. So I still think it's wide open right now for most people.
I haven't even seen any good white label options. But Nick has said, why not make the business yourself and implement it for yourself? Yeah, so we actually implement it in every single one of our workflows inside our agency. So for example, my whole team uses it.
And we've actually scaled back the team a lot because of the automations that we have. So I think if you already have a business, the best way to start with AI is not to create a new agency, but to implement it inside the existing workflows you have inside the existing business you have. So Jason was asking about how to set up Obsidian. Should you use it with a separate human vault and a vault for the AI?
Or should you just have one main Obsidian setup? So for me personally, I just have one Obsidian setup. I don't have like multiple setups. I think it's better to have it all in one place just to keep it simpler.
And also when you're setting up Obsidian, the more complicated you make it, the more tokens it's going to use and the more difficult it's going to be to implement it. Whereas if you have it all inside one place where you check it and your agents check it, then it's a lot simpler. It saves time and it uses less tokens. Jose was asking about carousels with NA10.
One thing that I'd recommend, this is the way that I would start with NA10 workflows in the future, is just ask if it can be consistent via the workflow builder. So there's an AI you can use inside NA10 now, where you can build the workflow via chat. And I would just say, make sure that every image is consistent inside the workflow. There looks like there's a really good workflow template as well, which I'll link to below.
So we got a good question here from Joshua who was saying, Hi, I've been using HyperAgent, but I wanted to get set up the Hermes agent with AgentOS. Seems pretty similar to what I'm currently used to with the ability to use open source models and less than eye usage. Where do I go to learn about how to do this? So you can get the full AgentOS system here with the Hermes setup inside this section.
So you go to the classroom, inside the AI Profitable room, and then you go to new daily updates. And you can find the zip file to install it, a full step-by-step guide in the video tutorial here. For setting up a VPS, I'm going to show you two different examples. So I think that Paul actually got it set up this way instead, right?
So you can actually get the AgentOS on multiple devices, or you can actually use something like Hostinger, I believe. Yeah, so a lot of people are using Hostinger VPS. That seems to be pretty popular. Jean was asking how to upload contacts into Go high level.
So we use high level personally as well. There's a really good tutorial for this, which I'll link to below. It's quite easy to do with a CSV. So we got a question from Elsa.
What's the best practice to set up AgentOS safely? Should you set up the AgentOS on a completely different machine, with its own Apple ID, or on a VPS? Wants it to be safe, but also functional. What's the best setup?
For me personally, I just have it running locally. You can also ask the agent when you set it up, to reduce the amount of permissions it has. So that it has to ask you for approval for everything, if you want to play it really safe. I'd also recommend that you don't do anything you're not comfortable with.
If you're not sure, always stray on the side of not doing it. If you're not sure about setting something up, or you're not sure about using a certain skill or CLI, then just don't do it. Additionally, I wouldn't have it on a VPS. I think if you look at all the problems that came with OpenCLR, there are a lot of problems with it.
And like I say, for me personally, I just have it on one machine. If you want it to be really, really safe, then you can actually set it up with local only models, and have it running offline on a separate machine, without access to the internet. And that's another option, if you want to play it really safe. So it depends on what you want it to do.
And bear in mind, the more functional you make it, the more powerful it becomes, and the harder it becomes to control. So you want to make sure that if you do want it to be functional, that you're comfortable with the way you set it up. We have a question here from Steven, who says, what are you doing to build your second brain? So as I showed before, we have the memory galaxy over here.
That is my second brain. Super powerful stuff. Gets updated automatically, every time we use our AI agents inside the system. So it all links together, which is beautiful.
And then you can see here that Steven says, what are you doing to build it? I have tons of conversations across Codecs, Chatsheep, TQL, Decode, and Hermes, but I'd like them all to use a shared knowledge base. So what would I recommend? I would recommend that you use Obsidian, and then have an agent OS that brings it all together.
But you can just start with Obsidian to keep it simple. And we have something called the Infinite Context Engine, which is a system that combines OMI, that takes notes for me, that plugs it into Obsidian, and then Obsidian plugs it into my agent OS system. And that works really well. So if you're watching this, you're like, what is OMI?
OMI is an open source project that can listen to my microphone, watch my screen all day. And then from there, it can actually take thousands of memories, as you can see. And then after that, what it's going to do is we can actually export the newest memories to Obsidian, right? So for example, we can sync that to Obsidian, as you can see here.
Now, once that's done, it's then going to export the information over to Obsidian, and Obsidian looks something like this. And you'll see a full knowledge graph here. Now, once we've done that, we actually add it into our memory galaxy inside the agent OS, so it all syncs together. And if you want a really detailed version of that, check out the Infinite Context Engine training that we created.
Really powerful stuff. From Pedro, which is, right now, what type of AI automations are most in demand? And should you use Any10, Cloud Code, or Hermes instead? There's so many things that he finds himself getting lost in what he should build and try to sell.
So from what I see, the most popular service that people want is an agent OS system because clients know they need a dashboard like this, but they don't know how to implement it. So if you can build that with Cloud Code, or you can, for example, use our system, customize it for clients, and then sell it to them, that would work really well. And I think out of everything, this will be the most powerful to sell because clients want more leads, they want more content, they want more customers, and the agent OS system can be customized for that whole system. Plus, it's a way to create almost like a SaaS tool.
It's fully customized without having to be a developer. So for example, if we have a look at the systems that we've set up, like every problem that I had, I've now set up inside the agent OS. So for example, I used to have to spend a lot of time creating videos, so we created the video agent. I used to have to spend a lot of time creating SEO, so we created the SEO agent.
I used to, for example, struggle to have context across my agents, so I created the memory system. And then I've shared that with the whole community inside the AirProfit boardroom. And that's something that clients would be interested in too. So if you look at it from the client's perspective, it's like, right, okay, what do they need?
Well, they need more leads. They want to grow. So how do we get them more leads? Well, we can create more content for them using the video agent or the SEO agent.
We can generate more leads for them using the outreach tool over here. We can help them organize all of their data using the memory galaxy. And that's the most powerful way to help clients, I think. That's what they're really interested in.
And GPT 5.6 is about to drop on Thursday. Can't wait for that. I've already tried out Grok 4.5 today. That's really good as well.
So that just dropped too. As soon as GPT 5.6 drops, I'll be testing it and adding it inside GoldieBench as well. So I can't wait to see how it performs. A lot of people are saying it's not quite as good as Fable 5, but let's see.
For the people who got early access to it, basically. So Chad was saying his Hermes agent is using a lot of tokens. So for me personally, if I'm using something like GLM 5.2 with Hermes, I don't use the API. I would just use the coding plan.
And then that way you've got a flat cost for the coding plan. You don't seem to ever run out of tokens with Hermes and therefore there's no extra costs. So it's limited to whatever the coding plan you subscribe to costs. Also, we have a token minimization playbook.
So if you check out the token minimization training inside the classroom, that shows you multiple different ways, like 10 different ways to reduce the amount of tokens your agents use, which solves a massive problem too. So Garrett has a few questions here about the best setup for Paperclip and Hermes. What is the best way to use Paperclip together with Hermes agent for implementing skills and tasks and everything else? So the way that we set this up inside our AgentOS system is we created an AI SEO agency with a bunch of agents that work together in a team.
And that seems to work pretty nicely. Now, I don't use it that much. And if you're wondering what the best use cases are, it may be a case that you don't actually need it. Because usually the use cases stand out to you and be very obvious.
So it might be the case that you don't even need it and you're overcomplicating it. But if you do want to try it, what we actually did is we got it to work on a bunch of different tasks together. Like for example, creating tools, creating websites, creating relevant mini apps related to our SEO agency. And then it would just create and work on those for like hours autonomously as a team.
But honestly, I think if you're not sure how to use it and you're wondering what the use case is, it may be a case you don't actually need it. And just one Hermes agent would do the job. So for example, if you were looking at Paperclip and you're like, wow, okay, well, you know, I really want to create a team of designers. That's something that's going to help me a lot.
It's going to save me a lot of time. Okay, let's go with that. But if it's a case that you feel like I don't even know what the use case is, then probably in that instance, you don't even need it. It's unnecessary.
You're just making things too complicated for yourself. And that's basically it. We've answered every single question inside the AI Profit Board today. I do this daily for all the members.
So if you want to ask me a question, feel free to join and post inside the community. Inside the classroom, you get access to all of my best trainings, systems, lessons, et cetera. So if you're a complete beginner, you can go from beginner to expert over here. If you want to get my AgentOS system, you can get that here.
And we have a last update date. You can see the full video tutorial, step-by-step guide, and the zip file down here. Also, we add new trainings based on what's actually useful. So you can see, for example, we've just added a new token minimization playbook to reduce the amount of tokens you use so that you need less resources to run your agents.
We also, for example, created a new training on free from Tencent. And we're building new stuff out all the time based on what's actually useful and can help you. You can also direct message me if you have any questions personally. And inside the calendar, you can jump on weekly coaching calls, get help and support in real time, ask questions, et cetera.
Inside the map, you can meet people in your local area who are building with AI agents and using the AgentOS. And that's all inside the AI Profit Board. Now, you might also say, okay, well, can anyone use an AgentOS system? Can anyone build it?
So let me show you some examples here. Like we've got so many testimonials and wins. So for example, Jacob set up the AgentOS in about 10 minutes. And we've got 196 pages of testimonials and wins just like this.
So you can see here, Rick joined 30 minutes and already had the OS set up using Cloud Code. Like there's so many powerful systems, so many great people inside the community who are non-technical, can set up an agent operating system, are getting great results, are sharing their dashboard, automating and implementing and customizing everything too. So if they can do it and I can do it, then you can do it too, right? Like anyone can use an AgentOS and build with it.
And it's a really powerful system once you understand it, because you can use it for your business, you can customize it how you want, you can save a lot of time. And also potentially you could sell this to clients as well. So thanks so much for watching. I'll see you on the next one.
Cheers.
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